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Congestive Heart Failure…We as owners have known for decades longer then the researchers our Dobes tend to hold their paws up if we asked if they hurt their little foot for the but when their life is on the line most times we don’t realize this until late in the process because of their stoic nature.

Remember we run to our doctors if we think our indigestion is not from what we ate – this just an example of course. We also tend to have regular check ups but our Dobes well until they appear to have obvious problems do we judge by their appearance and or actions and again they tend to mask the more serious conditions. 

Recently during a detailed physical of our new ‘next generation’ boys Lex and Marshall which was their first full examination that began with a general examination along with Blood Pressure, Chest X-rays, Ultrasound, ECG, what is called a Blood Chemistry Panel or Superchem and a Complete Blood Count plus an echocardiogram on my boys who are just two years old with my girl Marti and one of our future mothers I was told about a in-home heart test. In the end I also asked for update information of Cardio – nothing new yet but was surprised to learn about the following test we all can do at home. We need only our Hoytt Dobe, a quiet time and a free hand. 

+ Use your I Phone or a watch with a second hand. Observe the breathing rate over 30 seconds by placing a hand on the kid. Since Marti sleeps in bed I waited until she was sleeping but all they have to be is relaxing. Sitting on the floor with them on their favorite rug or bed works well.

+ One breath is counted every time the chest rises and falls. The count should be less then 35 breaths per minute. Marti’s came between 18 & 20 per minute. (I did sixty second tests and also the first few nights I checked Marti at least ten different times – why not?) However they (who ever they are) say once a day is enough.

+ Keep a daily chart for one week to establish the kid’s base line. (I did Mari for 14 days)

+ If while resting the Resting Respiratory Rate (RRR) is greater then 35 breaths per minute or increases from the base line you’ve established by 25 percent its time to have the kid checked –but first…

+ If the kids RRR increases repeat the test in 30/60 minutes just to be sure your count was correct. Real elevations in RRR will be consistent.

Now here’s what generally is considered warning signs.

+ Coughing …. Not throwing up as we know our Dobes are grazers. Experience back in 1984 with one of my boys came as a cough I did not consider I heard before after a play time outdoors with his mate. The next day I again heard the cough – the following day I was at the vets and whatever tests were suggested back then was done. 

+ Changes in breathing of course.

+ Shortness of breath – my 1984 boy showed no shortness of breath and the cough came only after playing outdoors with his friends just two days before the tests. I had noticed after the fact that he had lost a bit of weight but thought it was because of the girls he would have wanted to date but had no offers. So even a slight but visible weight drop or a change in coat quality should be considered not just for heart health but other conditions – with Hoytt Dobes parasites are extremely rare. But this could be time for at least a blood profile which can as I understand detect even many types’ cancers.

+ Being restless at night may mean the kid is beginning to have breathing difficulties – I expect our ‘family’ to know their Dobes well. Separating their Guardian side as well as their picking up on some animal roaming their yard would be just the kid being itself. 

+ Hormonal changes in the girls would also cause a restlessness even after being spayed they can have imaginary feelings during a few weeks of when they would have cycled if not spayed.

+ Lack of appetite is of concern but not a panic situation initially because like our selves sometimes we are not interested in food just be sure they will take their most favorite treats – if they don’t throw up at least you know they have not swallowed your favorite under ware :roll: . 

Last but not least I have talked with more folks over the years who’s kid was diagnosed wrong so be sure what you are told sounds right - again you know your ‘kid’ the doctor does not unless your vet lives with you. Plus in today’s world of internet information always follow up once home and read up on what drugs your Dobe was given and the diagnosis. Too many times I think we are given a trade off and a drug that seems to correct the immediate believed problem will bring more serious consequences in the long term. 

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hank you for the info Barrie....the other thing I have learned; is that dogs also have "irregular" regular heart beats...so it's also good to get an idea of how your kids heart sounds. My two have slow heart rates, and I'm told it's because they are very active. I did not know of the breathing exercise, so I will add this to my routine :P Dobermans are the greatest of all the breeds in my opinion, and I am thankful to have them in my life! Living in the moment, and enjoying them each day ~

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Thanks Barrie for always helping us to raise our fur-kids. None of us want to experience our world without our Dobe fur kids in our families.

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 From Marti's dad...food recall again
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 Post subject: It's a girl...UPDATED 8pm 2-26-12
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:18 am 
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... and from her first day with her new family way back when she was just a kid I've been told she goes out of her way to please. Well her first a pretty red head.


 
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 Post subject: Re: It's a girl...UPDATE
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:31 am 
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no it's two girls and of course they need a 'yes dear' boy and that's Savannah's third. We now have a red girl, a blue girl and a fawn boy one more and we have a rainbow litter. And Savannah is smiling and her pups are woppers, boy I need a rest but all I'm doing is talking to the family. Guys are foolish when it comes to child birth - why do we get tired when the girls are doing all the work.

UPDATE...First pup born 4:46 am, eighth pup born 7:40am ... we have very fat wiggly little Savannahs - two red girls, two fawn girls, two blue girls, one fawn boy and one black boy. All excellent weight almost no variable, mom has already had two meals, drinking water; steady temperature and x-ray show no surprises remain. 

Savannah's had her bath, the little one's had theirs and about 3 this afternoon we took photos, compliment her about her babaies and she grins - she loves being a mother in fact she remembered where in the office the whelping room door was and went right to it. From there she went to Tatty’s babies gave them a kiss and stepped in letting them attempt to nurse. That was two days ago. This evening Savannah let Marti in to her private area to see her babies and I then showed Tatty's little ones a baby since they knew things were happening across the isle and had been hearing the squeeks of the new borns all day. Now at 12 pounds Tatty's pups are the big kids on the block.


 
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 Post subject: Re: It's a girl...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:49 pm 
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Don't fret, Barrie. Women do all the work, and men do all the worrying. They're both tiring!
Congrats on the new babies!!

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 Post subject: Re: It's a girl...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:27 pm 

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She is finally here :D Can hardly wait to see her
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 Post subject: Re: It's a girl...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:14 pm 
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O.K. Papa, how many new fur-kids?

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 Post subject: Re: It's a girl...UPDATED 8pm 2-26-12
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:11 am 
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Oh, I like the sound of two red girls! Can't wait to see these pups. This is so exciting. I am already getting sad about my son leaving next weekend but this news has made me smile!

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WOW-WOW-WOW-WOW-WOW-WOW-WOW-WOW (or should I say bow-wow-wow.......?) - 8 little wigglin' wonders! Congrats Savannah - a beautiful rainbow litter - can't wait to see pictures.

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 Post subject: I am about to welcome my 69th spring...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:10 am 
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... and God willing spring 2012 will be the beginning of the next great period in our family's lives, even if some of us are still dealing with the loss of a “kid.” Most of us will be welcoming or have already welcomed in a new kid…not to be a replacement but one who represents a living memorial to our departed friend and helps fill the hole in our hearts. We know the memories of the love and devotion of the great ones at our sides or from our past will never be lost for they will be with us forever in spirit.

However, I've been thinking about ways to show the world more of the personal side of each Dobe’s life, to represent a moment in time that shows others who feel as we do about our Dobes…and perhaps to surprise those who have no idea how sensitive or silly a Dobe can be. Of course, spend a few hours in our forum and it’s obvious you guys have beaten me to the photo punch with so many great pictures. But how about letting each Dobe step forward for 24 hours?

You all know I receive photos from those who are ‘family’ but some are not on our forum. In time, these will be added to the Owner’s Gallery, but being as proud of what my team and I have done in creating the foundation of the ‘kid’ you welcomed into your heart as I am of you, “the family,” I want to do more.

So guys…go back over all your photos and find one, two or five that best represent the love you have for your Dobe. And for sure, even if you want to first or second present a Hoytt Dobe from the past, go for it. In time I may put my very first (born 1958) Dobe - Poco - on the page but your kids first. One photo will become the center of attention as our Home Page Dobe – along with an added personal comment, perhaps better called a postscript … a statement from your heart since this follows the photo. Say what you feel for there will be no set limit. So whether it’s a sentence or a page, we will add a link that gives parental background so there will be room to cry, laugh or just brag. 

Each Dobe after presentation will be moved to a yet to be named page just for those who made the cover. So start looking, keep smiling, and get writing for this will be also a fun exercise of emotions. It’s time to show off.

Marti's dad

For those who missed the 'name calling' question ; I am pleased to say even my private mail offered only verions of affection and while I may have to sign some communications Mr. Hoytt at the end of the day I am simply one more human who has been won over by a Dobe.


 
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 Post subject: Re: I am about to welcome my 69th spring...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:06 pm 
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Barrie - I think this is ANOTHER ingenious idea you've had! What fun it will be looking through our photos, and writing a description of our favorites. It's a nice winter project for those of us trapped indoors by the cold winter weather. ;) 

As far as your sign-off for the forum, my personal favorite is 'Marti's dad', and in close second is 'Papa Barrie'. Regardless of what you choose, we enjoy reading your posts! :D

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 Post subject: Re: I am about to welcome my 69th spring...
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Papa Barrie. That's what Dylan always calls you, anyway. My boys respectfully call you Mr. Hoytt. 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: I am about to welcome my 69th spring...
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Gator and I vote for Papa Barrie, too! You will always have a place in the lives of all of us - 2-legged and 4-legged!

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We both feel that our 4-legged girls rule in this house, so we say... either Marti's Dad or Papa Barrie. Excellent idea!

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Marti's dad :D

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Marti's Dad is my favorite!

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I vote for Marti's Dad also. Boy you left this wide open for some good ones! You are surely are a "one of a kind"!!!!!! We love ya. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:36 am 
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I cast my vote for Marti's Dad.
two reasons 
Marti is Maya's sister
and Marti and i got along exceptionally well - she was more friendly to me than Maya, when i went to visit Maya before Maya completed her HoH training.

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 Post subject: Re: I am about to welcome my 69th spring...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:58 pm 
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Barrie, now that I have given some thought to this, I really like it when you sign Marti's dad. It is softer and we feel you are one with us as the family. Carol

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 Post subject: Re: Doberfest 2011...the captain needs info
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:45 pm 
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Rabbi suggested I post what I sent you so if any one knows of others, they can add; 
In story form..... 

Even Papa Barrie was proud of us. This night brought in more cousins and their 2-legged parents: Papa Barrie brought my dear friend, 1. Miss Marti. Miss Janine was there with Miss Theresa and another friend plus 2. Rodeo and 3. Margarite. Miss Pattie and Dr. Noble with 4. Onyx and Miss Ann and Richard with our latest surgical rock boy, 5.Owen with his sister 6. Lucy. There is Miss Northern Carol with my half sister 7. Miss Phoebe. Bachi look at who is walking towards us, it is our cousins 8. Mr. Sonny and 9. Miss Georgia with their dad, Mr. Wayne. Wow Bachi, did you hear that loud deep voice of another dog barking. I wonder if that noise is another Doberman and he is huge and scary and Le’si please be my protector. I’m just a whittle girl. O Bachi, it is only 10. Ajax from Florida like us with his parents, Miss Terry and Mr. Allen. Miss Noel and Mr Dane with 11. Dally man and 12. Sienna? Look over there, that couple looks really familiar. Mom, is that my utter mother Miss Alicia who use to give me all kinds of stuffed ducks and was so nice to me? Bachi, she has my utter dad Mr Mike with 13. Commander, who used to always clean my ears and 14. Ember and 15. Cashmere. I stayed with them for 6 weeks, before I came to our mom, while Ember was whelping at Papa Barrie’s. 
Miss Kim and Mr Troy come from way up in northern Michigan with 16. Dana and 17. Jordan. Mr. Tim with 18. Maya and 19. Keira came from South Carolina; Miss Jo, Mr Todd and beautiful Miss Rebekah with 20. Ellie and 21. Forrest came from Alabama. And we, 22. Le'si and 23 Bachi, came from southern Florida. 

Barrie, I think I have them all including non-Hoytt Dobies......

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 Post subject: Re: Doberfest 2011...the captain needs info
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:45 pm 
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Barrie,
This is the campground where we all met. Noel found it and made the contacts. I believe we could reserve the whole campground for ourselves since this is an 'overflow' campground. It is not used frequently and worked out nicely since a lot of people have issues with so many dobermans! Here is the info that I have.

Sherman Oaks Campground in Dandridge - 1601 E. hwy 25 70 Dandridge
The man's name is Steve, and you can look up thier website at www.shermanoakscampground.com

Steve's number is 865-397-4080 

So glad to hear you are planning a 2012 get-together! Thanks, Kim

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